[Morals]

thats bollocks. they wouldn't roll like that even if they were weighted. particularly the first once which mounts the ramp.

They could, it depends on how the weights are placed within the tyre.

[stealthcow2]

anoraks anyone? i have them in green blue and yellow

[timb]

even if it was weighted with anti-gravity magnets they would not move like that

[Morals]

At one point three tyres, amazingly, roll uphill. They do so because inside they have been weighted with bolts and screws which have been positioned with fingertip care so that the slightest kiss of kinetic energy pushes them over, onward and, yes, upward. During the pre-shoot set-ups, film assistants had to tiptoe round the set so as not to disturb the feather-sensitive superstructure of the arranged metalwork. The slightest tremor of an ill-judged hand could have undone hours of work.

One of the more surprising things about the ad is that it was not a cheat. Although it would have been much easier to fiddle the chain of events by using computer graphics, the seesaw and shunt of events really did happen, and in one, clean take.

Source

See, I was right.

[Lew]

and timb was wrong, everyones a winner

except timb....

[timb]

except i'm not, it's a load of bollocks. that would take a matter of hours to do with CGI work, and they are claiming they did 606 takes each of which took hours to set up. yeah right. some people around here are just too gullible

[Morals]

FFS, you are the most opinionated person who ever lived. Why can't you just accept you might be (and are) wrong for once? * it, if you want I'll phone the advertising company that produced the ad and ask them - but that wouldn't convince you anyway would it? No, because you are incapable of admiting that something you've said is wrong, and if someone tries to prove to you are wrong, you resort to stupid insults. Well frankly mate, and I'm sure I speak for others on here when I say this, you're an idiot. OK? Either learn to accept that you are sometimes (frequently) wrong, and accept other points of view within discussions, or sling your hook.

[Sidders]

Although I agree that on this and most other occasions timb is wrong, I fail to see where he has resorted to stupid insults. Surely that's what you were doing when you called him an idiot.

Quite frankly I don't really care. The advert could have been quite easily done by using computer graphics, but the whole intent of advertising is to get people to talk about their adverts. If they came clean and said the whole thing was computer generated then it wouldn't generate this type of discussion.

Even so, I'd love it if the whole thing was real. It'd be great to see some sort of 'How did they do that?' type feature. (What happened to that programme?)

[Morals]

Ok, fair one on calling him an idiot sidla, maybe I shot myself in the foot slightly then, but he did say that anyone who believes the advert isn't done using CGI is gullible, and I wasn't just referring to this particular thread when I made that comment.

Basically my above rant was borne out of pure frustration with timb and his total refusal to take anyone elses points of view, arguments, whatever on board but instead stubbornly refuse to accept he may be wrong, even when people back up their comments with supporting evidence.

Certainly a "making of" thing would be cool - I have no reason to believe they didn't spend 5 months getting it right - apart from the fact Honda will get shit loads of publicity from this campaign, how cool would it be when the people who did the ad finished - if you were involved and saw it on telly, you'd be able to say "I helped do that".

[timb]

i hardly call one newspaper article which is based entirely on what honda have told them evidence. when faced with two different options which give the same result all companies will chose the cheaper option.

[stealthcow2]

surely if they could make a tire roll up hill under the slightest of kinetic energy they could make some sort of perpetual motion device by making it roll up and down a curved slope?!

[Morals]

Well it's more evidence than you have supplied to back up YOUR argument.

[timb]

the evidence of my argument is the advert itself. the tires clearly defy the laws of physics.

[Morals]

It's perfectly possible with the correct weights in the correct position within the tyres - the weights would give the tyre enough momentum to roll uphill far enough to hit the next tyre. If I could really be bothered to try and navigate Honda's flash site I'd watch the making of feature, but I really can't be bothered.

[Dopey]

It can also be done by putting the camera on a tilt.
BTW I'm not saying thats what they did but it's a possible solution to making the tyres to appear to roll up a ramp.

[timb]

no matter how many weights you use you wont get a tire to balance on a slope. if it was a tilted camera it might work but that would mean the sequence wasn't one shot.

[Mcqueen_]

Have you started smoking timb?

[Gaspode_The_Wonder_Dog]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh is today national geek day? it does seem apropriate

[Sidders]

Have you started smoking timb?

lol

[timb]

i fail to see anything funny in that

[MK Chris]

That's because it wasn't your joke.

[timb]

or perhaps because it made no sense.

[Sidders]

Made sense to me.

[timb]

yes because smoking affects your judgement of the laws of physics

[MK Chris]

Erm, I don't smoke - made sense to me too.